|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 10:27 pm: |
I was on your web site late last night, trying to track down some information. I see that you have a book titled, Cancer Salves: A Botanical Approach to Treatment. I was navigating all about your site, as I'm on an herbal e-mail discussion list on the net. I'd asked about a product called, Compound X. I was asking why the people at this company are so evasive about this stuff.
In turn, I got a response from a woman on the list who relayed your site address, and the herbalist Michael Tierra's.
What I'm wondering about your book is this. I've got some moles and other minor skin growths I'd like to get off my body. I understand that some of these bloodroot salves and poultices can remove them. I don't have skin cancer at this point, but from the looks of some of these moles I think I better get them off.
Does your book outline what one can do to get these pre-problematic growths off the body, safely and COMPLETELY? It's so hard to get information on this, and I KNOW there are natural herbal means of doing this, but it's like people won't talk about it. What's the deal? Is it malarkey, or can this really be done. I think it can. You can buy chemical WART remover (Compound - W) so why not herbal remedies to remove other skin problem areas?
I'd appreciate any information you can pass along to me, or other sources you can steer me toward. I'd be glad to buy a copy of your book as well, if you feel it has applicable info for the goals I've mentioned to you here.
Thanks for your help. I look forward to hearing from you.
Best regards, John
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 10:27 pm: |
The problem with ST and other companies is that the Government restricts what can be said about a product. It is virtually impossible for them to discuss the uses of a product they sell without stepping over the line. In my own contact with them, they were unwilling to divulge any of the ingredients in their version of Compound X so it has not been possible for me to form much of an opinion about their product.
Most of the products do remove some warts and moles as well as malignancies, but there are products that are better than other products and conditions that respond better to certain products than to others. Then, there is one person who wrote me that she bought a product such as you are considering. She successfully removed two moles but the third did not respond at all. There are no simple explanations for such experiences.
I wrote my book so that there is one voice out there that is responsible, one that is not connected to the production or sale of any escharotic product. However, while researching and writing the book, I had occasion to interview a lot of patients and producers. I do not believe that all the products are equal or that the instructions accompanying the products are adequate. In fact, I do not know any producer who is providing sufficient instructions for use. For this reason, I think my book is important.
The biggest flaw in the producer world is that most people have simplistic ideas about how their products work. In most cases, they inherited the recipes for the products from family members who were not educated in herbal medicine or cancer treatment. This does not, however, lead to the conclusion that the products are not valuable, merely that the people making them do not know as much about them as they might.
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 10:28 pm: |
Just a couple more quick questions, if I may. First, can you give me ordering info via e-mail so I can either telephone or mail in my order for a copy of your book? I'd rather do it this way than through the Web site. Please give me full details on how to go about getting it. Thank you.
Two, I'm fully aware of what you say in how these products are VERY SPENDY or overpriced. Do you give information/instructions in your book on how I can make a salve myself? Or at least point me toward another source so that I can get a self-created compound recipe? This one company I mentioned, S T, charges $100.00 for a jar of their product. That sounds way out of line to me: criminal, in fact. Any help you can give in this respect will be tremendously appreciated.
Your book sounds great, and I want to get a copy. As soon as I hear back from you, I'll put in my order, Ingrid. THANK YOU!
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 10:29 pm: |
The book order number is 360-779-9677 or 1-888-FAX-HEAL. The book can also be ordered online.
There are many ways to look at the pricing of the salves. The salves (or pastes) are not expensive to make. However, it takes time to round up quality ingredients, and some people have other uses for their time. It is also possible to bungle the manufacturing of the salves—and some people are not able to obtain zinc chloride. Others do not have the equipment necessary to grind bloodroot to a fine powder (a sometimes challenging task) or they ruin the product by allowing the zinc chloride to come in contact with metal.
Producers often spend a lot of time on the telephone answering questions about their products, explaining the use of the products to frantic people (who often report in every day). They are most of them very sincere people who feel they are rendering the world a valuable service; but it is difficult to put a price tag on that service. Should it reflect the price of the ingredients, the time on the phone, or the value to the patient? If all patients were grateful and supported this treatment, producers could make ends meet by providing everything on a love offering basis. Some actually do this. One person I know has treated over 600 people without any fee for his product or services, but he sometimes sleeps for days because he is so drained.
It's a two-way street. I honestly do not think $100 is exorbitant. Robert is incredibly available to his customers. He carries a cellular phone so that he can be reached with questions. My issue is only with the lack of divulgence, not him or his pricing. He is also providing more paste than most people need and less than some need— it would be good to have a choice of sizes of the jars.
One can make the salve for pennies, but it may take you two days to figure out how to make it, and you won't be sure you did it right if this is all new to you. Buying a ready-made product is not therefore foolish. I simply like the goldenseal salve better as people rarely even need aspirin (the instructions are in the book.)
|Posted on Monday, May 14, 2001 - 11:53 am: |
If I was to buy one product that I could use to treat what i think might be pre-cancerous growths on my skin, what should I buy. Example: A relatively new mole that appeared on my face.
|Posted on Monday, May 14, 2001 - 07:25 pm: |
All the products are actually quite similar, and I suspect it is the zinc chloride that makes for the potency of the products. You should simply be very careful about what you are doing. You should read the book thoroughly before starting. Especially, read the page on this site in which I speculate:
The reason is that it is possible that the growth, whatever it is, is just the tip of the iceberg, that is the visible part of a larger system of abnormalities that will be stirred up when you treat only the superficial appearance.
Personally, I am quite convinced of this. In a best case scenario, the situation is easily dealt with in a few days. In a worst case scenario, there will be excruciating pain, scarring, and months of aftermath.
I do not think these concerns render the process invalid. Rather, they mean that only those who are adequately prepared and determined should start. Internal detoxification is another very important adjunctive measure that can precede the use of external products.
|Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2001 - 02:28 pm: |
I would like for someone to advise me where to buy zinc chloride. I would also like to know if the salves are just as effective without the zinc?
Any help would be appreciated.
|Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2001 - 07:45 pm: |
I just posted an answer to a similar question under "new questions." Whether or not you need a prescription seems to depend on the state. You can buy a bloodroot salve and goose a gentler product with a little of the escharotic until you get the blistering effect needed. Don't even consider this without reading the book since it is important to know what you are doing before jumping in feet first.
Some people can destroy tumors without the zinc chloride, but they need an herb that is destructive. Many use poke root or bloodroot.
|Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 01:50 pm: |
Do you or anyone have a recipe for a salve that fades moles and scars? I have experience making lotions, creams and salves (for rashes). I have moles that I would like to remove on my body but have heard terrible stories about salves causing major scarring and pain. I want to make something that is safe and will not be so harsh.
|Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 09:49 pm: |
If you read what has been posted on this site about moles, you will realize that a mole is not a mole is not a mole. Those that are viral would seem to respond very well to the bloodroot pastes, but if they do respond in such a way, the reactions would be dramatic and potentially scarring. The safer approach would therefore be to increase immunity and perhaps also detoxify BEFORE treating the mole externally. This is similar to the suggestions made by many others for skin cancer treatment: do the internal tonics as a preparation for the external treatments . . . unless, of course, the growth is life-threatening and there is no time to spare.
|Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 10:38 pm: |
I have skin tags covering about 1/8th of my body now. I started out with one large growth on my inner thighs about ten years ago. I had it removed by a doctor. Since then they have spread as if the removal activated them somehow. I have used blood root tincture for months and they don't react in anyway what so ever. Im getting so embarrassed by them that I won't wear a bathing suit or have a sexual relationship anymore. They look like some kind of STD. Of course I know they aren't and they can't be caught or transmitted by touch. But they are very painful when rubbed by clothing. Is there any help other than cutting them off? I'm not looking forward to that kind of pain I assure you. I've also been told that they are not a pre-rec to cancer, I hope that is the truth, do you have a opinion about what they are and what causes them? I've read Hormones come into play and being over weight seems to increase hormone instabilitys. Thanks G.
|Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 01:38 am: |
I have actually been discussing this with some MDs and trying to come up with something. We had some ideas but I need to go over this one more time. Stay tuned!
If you only had a few small ones, the cayenne salve will remove them if you are daring. You can tie a tiny string around the base of the flabbiest one and then lop it off when it has been strangled. The cayenne salve stings for a few minutes, well sometimes for 45 minutes, but they don't grow back and I haven't seen scarring. This is obviously more challenging when there are many.
No one with whom I have spoken seems to know what causes them. I am suspecting that they do have some kind of microbial basis, maybe not as stigmatizing as an STD but perhaps something like a mold or allergic reaction to an organism and the body tries to eliminate it through the skin because the liver and kidneys and large intestine aren't handling this effectively.
Call this a stab in the dark. I don't believe anything happens for no reason at all so we need an explanation. If hormones were the explanation, people on the pill, those drinking out of plastic bottles, and those with high libidos would be the ones complaining and such people might be last to take on celibacy?
What do you think? You're in the driver's seat.
|Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 03:09 pm: |
I have had a mole on the side of my face for as long as I could remember. Hair actually grows out of it. Is a mole just ever a mole with no potential problems?
Also, I noticed a dark red, round dot the size of two pinheads on one of my toes a few years ago. It has remained the sme and does not hurt. It looks like a beauty mark.
Also, on my abdomen, i have a red dot,that looks like what you see when you scrape off a scab. It is very small. Do you know what these things mean. One doctor told me they were signs of aging(i'm 36), but he said the thing on the toe did not look malignant, but to monitor it and that it may indicate things internal that may not be good.
What do you say, and can a serious organic, vegetarian/detox diet remedy this from the inside out? I will go full blown vegetarian for the rest of my life if I have to. What do you advise? Thanks, Ante
|Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 08:05 pm: |
There are good arguments for a vegetarian diet besides curious designs on the body. I absolutely have no idea what the red marks are, but in Ayurvedic medicine, "red" means toxic. Well, that is the abbreviated lesson. It means "pitta" derangement or "acid" or "chemical toxin" and these are cleansed/neuralized by alkaloids such as bitter leafy green vegetables, aloe vera juice (which we have), liver cleansing herbs, and such.
Secondly, most holistic practitioners believe that when strange colorations (and itching) occur on the skin that the eliminatory system is not doing its job efficiently. The skin is a major organ of elimination so when normal channels are overworked, the skin takes over. Taking intestinal flora and bowel tonics such as triphala often resolve the issue, but when they don't one needs to look for other explanations.
Your doctor does not seem alarmed, but you feel more concerned than he so you should honor your instincts, especially if cancer runs in your family. You see, you found this site using a search so what were you searching? why?
As for the mole, you are right to assume that a mole is not a mole is not a mole. The only ones that seem to respond well to the bloodroot pastes are the viral ones. So far as cancer goes, the main warning is change. If a mole has been there forever and ever and remains the same, it is usually safe to let it be; but you see someone the moment it changes.
|Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 07:59 pm: |
14 April 2002
My wife and I received some black salve from our naturepath. We both had some color changing moles. We applied the black salve to 4 of my moles (each seperately until healed). Each mole reacted as described in Cancer Salves. One mole has healed over nicely thanks to lavendar oil and vit. E and has a very slight scar. The other 3 had/have red scars. We purchased your book, Cancer Salves and are studying it.(this is a wonderfully presented book and answers many questions...highly recommended). We read about continuing the salves until it doesn't react anymore. One of the moles was a red, pin prick size mole, that reacted more so than the other black/brown ones. This is the site we chose to repeat the bs. again.We have repeated the process for over 5 weeks now.We use Christopher's Black Oinment after the eschars come off(with the 2nd and continuing applications, 2 dime size eschars have formed), and it continually draws morbid material. We have put bs. on 4 times now through this process. I haven't been diagnosed with any cancer. I do work with some chemicals. This process seems to be endless, and I wonder if this site is just drawing toxins and the bad all throughout my body, or if this particular mole is just bad. I have at least 10 red pin prick moles, and over 20 other moles. Would it be wise to stop on this particular site and to start on another? Could the zinc chloride in the bs. be reacting too much? Would a different salve be advisable, that would still draw, but not allow to heal over. Are there other case studies and experiences you are aware of that have any similarities. Would there be some major detoxifying processes to be aware of? I took the internal 'Compound X' salve for 34 days, but without much reaction. I do take red clover, blue violet tea, milk thistle, and alfalfa tablets as cleansers and upkeep of the colon, liver, and blood. Thank you for any input.
|Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 08:11 pm: |
It's not unusual for reactions to continue for six months or even longer when people have malignancies so nothing actually surprises me. You could try one of our more specific internal tonics. Otherwise, you seem to be on the right track.
Changing the application site is not usually a good idea because the body seems to set up pathways to the point of exit. Many people who are extremely sensitive to their bodies have described the sensations they feel when material inside the body is moving towards the exit site. So, sensitive and annoying as this probably is, I'd hang in there a bit longer . . . and, of course, report back so others benefit from your experience here.
My own experience with moles is fairly limited.
|Posted on Monday, April 15, 2002 - 11:28 pm: |
Hi - I'm glad I found this site, it is very informative! O.k. concerning moles, I do have a question. Since I was very little I've had a decent size mole right below my collar bone on the left side. Now, it's been there "forever" and I have no pain or anything. It does change color from light tan, to brown/black - but mainly a brown color. It also has little pieces of fleshy things growing out of it. That has been going on for a number of years now too. I have recently developed a little, pretty small piece of dark tan colored fleshy thing above my right elbow (on the outside of elbow, not inside the arm). No pain, or itching, but it seems to have gotten a little darker in the past few days. O.K., I'm not going to panic, but is there a salve for these? Does it HAVE to mean cancer just because it changes color? They at least don't change shape! Never have. Please, anyone with any info. please write back. Thank you so much. LauraM
|Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 02:20 am: |
You might be well-advised to show these growths to a dermatologist and get an opinion from someone who is used to seeing a wide variety of growths. He would probably have an opinion based on mere visual inspection but might recommend a biopsy if they look suspicious. The choice is obviously yours; and, as you have seen from other posts, some moles respond to the salve and some do not. It is my general assumption that the ones that respond best are viral and that if this were the case, the mole is the tip of the iceberg so you could expect a systemic reaction if using a bloodroot salve.
Let us know what you do.
|Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 01:23 am: |
What you do is wonderful. I hope, I Know, you can help me as well. I have many moles on my arms and some on other parts of my body including my face. Some are just slightly smaller then a pencil end. I have quite a few that are half that size and many more that are even smaller than that. I did see my doctor to see if any may be cancerous. He did kind of brush me of and said they looked fine. This causes me concern. If he had looked at them well or suggested a dermatoligist I would have felt better. Many of these moles have grown and become more raised over the years an many new ones have appeared. There is one on my wrist that is getting lighter in the outer area and darker in the middle. I have considered laser surgery but it can become expensive and I wouldn't know where to start. I did just order some bloodroot do you think it may help getting rid of them even if they may not be cancerous. These moles do cause me quite an embarressment. I am only 23 years old and I wont even where a T-Shirt because I am so embarrased to show my arms. One last thing I do have blood tests every month for my thyroid disorder, would cancer show up there if they wern't specificaly looking for it. Please send some of you great suggestions my way, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
|Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 01:47 am: |
Yes, well I am not sure about this. I asked a dermatologist once about moles and he said that the appearance was part of the neurological system from birth and that moles would simply pop up when the prearranged time came. I have to say this opinion was a little odd sounding to me.
What we are finding with the bloodroot is that some moles respond to it and others do not. My guess is that viral ones respond. This suggests that some moles are related to immunity and that an immune booster might help. I have been reading more and more about essential oils that both address moles and immunity, curious connection.
There are other moles that appear to be dumping grounds for excess pigmentation and I am guessing this is your problem and that it relates somehow to your thyroid issue, but I am just hazarding a guess and may be off the wall.
The third factor to consider is colon function because the cleaner the colon, the more beautiful the skin. If you are careful to mainful proper intestinal flora and if you remain regular, it might help . . . and a little bird is suggesting that you sprout some fenugreek seeds and try these for a few days to see what happens.
|Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2004 - 03:43 pm: |
I have a mole on my inner thigh and i can lift it up a little/barely and the color is a little lighter... is this weird? Also, the surface is not lumpy but but it just lookes kindof like a raisin....it has like small lines so that the surface feels smooth but it looks kindof wrinkled... should I be concerned?
|Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 12:49 am: |
You should continue to observe it and pay attention in the event that anything changes.
|Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 10:06 pm: |
I have a small raised mole about the size of a pencil eraser on my collar bone. I heard that putting aloe vera on it and keeping a band-aid on it will take it away. Does this really work?
|Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 02:04 am: |
It's a new one on me. If you try it and it works, will you report back? Actually, report back regardless!
|Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 12:02 am: |
I have this mole on my face..above my lip just under my nose.. it seems like everyone is always staring at it and i just want it gone.. is there anything i can do here at home to get rid of it??
|Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 12:58 am: |
Sometimes, the black salve works on moles, but not always. It seems to depend on the type of mole.
|Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 02:38 pm: |
Hi, I am curious to know how to treat a non cancerous 4cm raised colorless mole in the center of my nose. It looks normal and I have had it my whole life. However, I can always see it from the corner of my eye when looking down- it actually interfers with reading! The dermotologist did not want to remove it because he thought the scarring could be more noticable than the mole itself b/c it would require a stitch or 2 and b/c the type of mole usually has deep roots. I am confused about using black salve or godenseal etc. I would really like to try and remove it the natural way, but since it is in the center of my face, I want to make sure I do it the most aestethically beneficial way. Also, can you tell me whichever product I may need, where to buy it? Thanks so much!!!!
|Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 09:48 pm: |
The black salve, if it reacts with the mole, would be a very aggressive procedure with completely unpredictable results. You could end up losing a big chunk of your nose.
At minimum, I would consider a thorough internal detoxification for several months. Once you know your blood and liver are really clean, then you could consider what might be needed to remove this mole.
|Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 10:51 am: |
I found Gaia's Goldenseal/Plaintain salve that contains Bloodroot and have been applying it to 2 moles. 1 is quite large, it appears to be getting 'taller', while the surface area seems to be shrinking. I'm assuming it's being 'pulled' from my body. Can you explain what is happening? I'm afraid I'm just making this thing longer..
|Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 12:50 am: |
I have no idea. Is the product recommended for this use? Some moles are viral. All moles respond differently so you simply need to be sure that the product you are using is right for your situation.
|Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 06:31 pm: |
My 3 1/2 old daughter got what appears to be 12 moles overnight on her left arm. They start on the inside of her forearm and go up to her shoulder. 2 are irregularly shaped. Is this normal? I cover her with sunscreen when we are in the sun, but she did get a slight tan a couple of weeks ago when we were in the Caribbean.
|Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2004 - 11:18 pm: |
I would have this checked by a dermatologist. It could be viral or something else, definitely not normal!
|Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 03:43 pm: |
In March, 2003, you posted "I have been reading more and more about essential oils that both address moles and immunity, curious connection."
Could you please expand on this.
I'm considering applying black salve on my skintag, but since I have so many fine essential oils around, perhaps I should try that first.
|Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 05:14 pm: |
I have a mole on my chest that I applied can_x black salve on three weeks ago and it is still there. When first applied all normal red ring, white circle, stinging pain etc. After two weeks I re-applied and still the mole is there. What next?? I dont want huge hole, just no mole. Can you help??
|Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 01:09 am: |
A skin tag is not a mole or neoplasm. There is no reason to expect that the black salve would cause a reaction. I may be wrong, but I have never heard of success with this method. However, if you discover what works, please share it!
|Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 01:10 am: |
The black salve is not necessarily effective in removing moles, especially those that are not viral in origin.
|Posted on Friday, October 22, 2004 - 11:13 pm: |
I just had a tiny black flat mole removed last week above my breast. I had to back this week because the doctor needed to dig deeper. This tiny speck never bothered me now today it has a red circle around it that looks inflamed and the weekend is coming up so I can't get in touch with the doctor. Can you tell me what this means? Is this a bad sign? It also feels uncomfortable almost like a minor itch.
Please respond soon
|Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 10:48 pm: |
what essential oils can use to get removed a mole that hangs off my thigh a little it is small looks like i could cut it but would rather use an oil
|Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 10:51 am: |
In trouble , I was playing cricket without wearing a helmit with a hard ball
wearing my specs
so then one ball got up n hit me on my specs ( frame less ) the glass of which hit me below my eye bro
got a cut , went to a doctor , got 2 stitches and now after removing the stich it looks bad
can you please advise me which cream , honey , or vitam e to use to get rid of it
so that its not visible any more
I read about that elicina cream on net , would that work
and if possible on my e mail address
please by tomorow
|Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 05:21 pm: |
I have many moles on my body and I am finally ready to get rid of them. Actually it was when I was pregnant that more appeared. This is why I agree that mole are often viral. When you are pregnant your immunity drops so this would probably explain it. I have found a product which actually removes them. It is called wart and mole vanish from a company called Pristine Herbal touch. I bought a vial of the product and had some success. I now realize that you have to really scratch the surface of the mole before putting it on. There were a couple of moles that I really scatched and now a week later they are a scab and I am confident that once the scab falls off the mole will be gone. So I bought a second vial. I will let you know how I make out.
|Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 06:52 pm: |
I heard that applying aloe vera to your mole works. How long would this take? Should i try or ask a doctor. Answer ASAP!
|Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 11:47 pm: |
I haven't heard of this. Let me know if you try it and if it works.
If not, you could try N-tense Topical.
|Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 12:18 am: |
I had a benign mole removed about 6 weeks ago. It required 5 stitches, and was cut/scraped off the skin laying on my collarbone. I was told to apply topical antibiotic cream for 10 days. In the last week or so, I've noticed the area reddening and itching. It appears as though the scarring is raised. Should I be concerned? what should I be applying to it?
Thanks for your advice,