| Author | Message | ||
     Gaylah Balter |
I need help there is so much alternative information out there that I am becoming confused and need a new direction for my healing. Can you help me decide which type of poultice or compress to use with which herbs to pull out the cancer from my breast. I have been using only alternative methods since my diagnosis on April 19. I have been using red clover infusion, 3 tablespoons of flax seed in a muffin every morning. thanks Gaylah | ||
| Ingrid |
I can't emphasize enough the importance of studying my book. I believe it will make a significant difference on many levels. First, you will see the variety of approaches used and realize that it is necessary to select one of the methods and perfect your use of it. Second, the recipes and formulas are in the book. Third, most of the questions are answered in the book. This said, the book does not cover diet and other approaches to healing that may also be useful, but I honestly do not think that people with cancer should attempt to treat their conditions through what can be covered in emails and posts to bulletin boards. I do not discourage using the board for questions, but I wish people would read the book first! It will prevent a lot of heartache. Best wishes, | ||
| Elly |
Gaylah, My name is Elly and I hve breast cancer, and I have been visiting a DR. Robbins in Tulsa,, he has gave me a black salve and a yellow salve that will pull the tumor out .. there are alot of books on here for sale.. but I am not reading I see a doctor for my information.. This is something you may want to check out for your self ok.. | ||
| Ingrid |
Just for the record, when someone who has read my book chooses to work with a practitioner, I am available to talk with the practitioner. | ||
| pj |
Last year I had breast, neck and lymph cancer--the black salve worked for me. I also made many lifestyle changes: diet, positive attitude, forgiving and on and on. I am happy and healthy today and very blessed. Thank you for the wonderful book Ingrid. The only Western med I did was for diagnosis before and after. I also have not taken any RX drugs of any kind since May, 2002. PJ | ||
| Ingrid |
I'm extremely happy to hear this! Many blessings, Ingrid | ||
| Anonymous |
I have had several operations on my breast to remove lesions as they reoccur. I don't believe in radical suegery or conventional treatments. I am now on my 4th application of black salve. At this moment one wound is open and I can see the round lesion. Is it safe to apply the salve directly to the exposed lesion before it heals over.. The opportunity is there... Tnank you, Ann | ||
| Ingrid |
It is safe and not usually as painful as one might imagine. Just be careful. The eschar will normally form more quickly so sometimes it is all right to remove the salve after some hours instead of waiting a full day. | ||
| Debra |
I have been battling stage 4 High grade Adenocarcinoma, and Invasive Ductal Carcinoma for over three years now. I was told I would be dead in two years, with or with chemo/radiation. What I have learned along the way is that many people claim they have cured cancer without ever having a real diagnosis. They don't seem to realize the damage they do. We are talking about a life and death situation here. Other than having the tumors removed twice and finally having to remove the breast in June, because of a major secondary infection...I have foregone traditional chemo/radiation....choosing instead to try natural cures. I am presently working with an alternative doctor receiving intravenous hydrogen peroxide, ultraviolet light, Artemisinin and ozone....and a couple of other formulas that I haven’t been able to keep track of. I also do mountain Sophora, large amounts of vitamin C, Alpha-Lipoic Acid, and Chlorocaps. We kept the cancer contained in the breast throughout this ....despite the fact they told me it had metastasized. My oncologist, and the surgeon have been amazed that the cancer has not spread. But since January I have been in and out of the hospital with an infection because other doctors never followed up after each infection (treated by intravenous antibiotics) to make sure the infection was gone. I wasn’t able to do many of these alternative treatments since the surgery because of being in the hospital. Within two month of having my breast removed what, at first, I hoped was scar tissue,turned out to be about 20 small tumors all along and radiating out from the scar. I just received a bottle of Black Salve from a very dear and trusted friend. It is called Balm of Gilead Cancer Salve or Compound X -- Black Salve. I just had a CT scan done in preparation for major radiation treatments...but I do not want to do them. My gut feeling is... because the tumors are now so close to the heart, ...because only a thin layer of skin is between the tumors, the ribs and my heart...I will end up with heart damage. There are no instructions for external use with the medicine...because at first I thought I wanted to take it internally. I understand external use is a very radical approach, but I am to the point I want this to be over or to die. I have spent the past three+ years unable to work because of ongoing surgeries, infections from surgeries (because of doctor mistakes).. so I cannot afford your book. I hate this half live that I have been reduced to. In a previous post, you stated you would talk to and work with alternative doctors. My doctor started in traditional medicine but decided she wanted to do more than treat symptoms....but she is also fairly new at the alternative cancer game. She is an acupuncturist, herbologist. She has spend tons of money going to seminars, and hours researching alternative treatments. I told her about being sent the salve and she asked me to get information on it and she would look at it. Could you direct me to information online. I know she would also be willing to speak to you. She has a good rapport with my surgeon and oncologist and has convinced the oncologist to track our progress. (She has other cancer patients and we all use the same oncologist) Blessings, Debra L Tenney | ||
| Ingrid |
Debra, I am not sure that I will address your issues directly. For me, the priorities are a little confused and the inability to budget the purchase of the book when there are damaged books for as low as $11 is really an obstacle. The reason I urge people to buy the book is that the material is presented in a comprehensive way. Even if I wrote a two-page response to your post, it would barely cover the main concerns you have. The book is comprehensive and the issues are discussed in context. If you don't read the book, that is one thing, but for a practitioner to "supervise" someone is another. If your practitioner chooses to become involved with a new treatment, it is imperative that the practitioner acquire a responsible grasp of the methods. On a more constructive note, I would say that the concerns you have are exactly those I have brooded over for decades. The latest theories of immunology suggest that the body prioritizes infection. It makes sense that the immune system would see infection as immediately life-threatening and devote its resources to fighting infection, saving the battle with malignancy for later. Once one understands this plus the fact that the infection and cancer thrive on some of the same nutrients, one can develop a plan for eliminating the infection. Normally, this will start with systemic examinations of the infection and the source. For instance, while it often is true that there is infection in the site of the biopsy or surgery, there is often also infection stemming from dental issues . . . that if unresolved will undermine the capacity of the immune system to deal with the longer-term issues of wellness. This is why the new program in Germany (starting November 17th) includes a thorough dental assessment (not the remediation but the evaluation.) So, as a student of cancer, what I read in your post is that you have discovered some pieces of the puzzle that might, in fact, be useful in a broadly-based cancer treatment program, you have not got the overview necessary to direct your treatment. This is not intended to be a criticism, merely an observation. Moreover, regardless of how enterprising a patient is, there will always be a learning curve and this curve can be very steep when you are millimeters away from vital structures. This is why an expert is needed, but who are the experts? What you wrote is exactly what the person who met me at the airport in Germany said a month ago: the doctor had spent decades and tens of thousands of euros traveling the world in search of a cure for cancer. He has attended countless seminars, read books, tried this and that, and all because he is extremely dedicated to healing. This is precisely the kind of person every patient wants as a primary practitioner, but even with the different modalities, there are often nuances that are overlooked. For instance, in a recent evaluation in Hungary, it was found that only one third of the patients receiving oxygen benefited. For me, this was a no-brainer. If the hemoglobin is not capable of transporting the oxygen, no amount of oxygen provided as a supplement/treatment will help. This is why it is sometimes very difficult for patients to manage their own treatment. If you do not know the status of the iron in your blood, you will not be able to predict the benefit of oxygen, at least not as a cancer treatment. It could, of course, still have an effect on the infection. I am, as I have often stated, always conflicted by the trade offs between patient empowerment and professional expertise. I am the first to acknowledge that expertise is lacking in the very places where it is needed the most so one is likely to be urged into conventional approaches that may or may not be suitable simply because the doctors are not trained in alternatives. This said, it is often the initiative of patients that brings information to the attention of their practitioners. Moreover, it is my experience that serious practitioners will spend whatever is necessary to acquire the information they need to do their jobs better so if you don't buy the book, there is no excuse for your practitioner not buying it. All this said, what is in the book that is not on the bulletin board or web site is a wealth of material on the nuances of the treatment: for instance, the use of various ointments throughout history to dissolve scar tissue and recurrences in scar tissue. If a practitioner understands these nuances, it is likely that they will conclude -- as others have in the past -- that use of an escharotic is seldom necessary. There are less aggressive methods that are often more effective. These include not only topical treatments that are used in the site of the trauma but internal treatments that relieve burdens on the body, such as lymphatic congestion associated with infection. In conclusion, the reason I don't say "do this" or "do that" on this web site is that out of context, such suggestions are usually inappropriate and nothing substitutes for a good grounding in what is really needed. Best wishes, Ingrid | ||
| Debra |
Thank you for your prompt response. I know that most people find it hard to imagine Americans living at a serious poverty level. But most of us are only a few months away from bankruptcy. The cancer really brought that home for me. The “body prioritizes infection” has been my experience exactly. With each infection, (4 total) I lost ground with the cancer. I will set up an appointment right away for a dental appointment. I do have dental issues and Medicaid will pay for them to be taken care of. I just haven’t been well enough to deal with dentists, because the infections were, at times, life threatening. The learning curve you mentioned is further compromised by a medical system that too often uses fear tactics to try and force you quickly into uninformed decision making. I have had physicians yell at me and one refused to send me for treatment of an infection because I would not do his bidding. (removing the breast and chemo/radiation) Interestingly enough, their notes in their records about my personality are quite flattering so it is not because I am aggressive...just firm in the conclusions I have reached. I understand your nuance statement completely. My body has reacted in ways totally unexpected. My veins were bad to begin with, so as they became worse, we went to an intravenous, pic-line and then to a port-a-cath in order to do my alternative treatments. We are constantly fighting blood clots in the lines. The head nurse of internal medicine, at my hospital, seems to be baffled by this....although the head of Infectious Medicine told me this was not uncommon with cancer patients. Everyone wants to blame everyone else when things don’t go right. The compartmentalization of medicine needs to be addressed, as much as anything else. You are sent to so many doctors who never have time to read and grasp your medical records; never-the-less, speak to your other doctors. Thanks for the tip on iron. My iron, blood tests show that I am back in the normal range....as I am in all the blood tests we have done. My oncologist remains shocked by the results every time. The only time the blood tests have shown bad results has been during the infections. All my test levels remain the the mid-normal range. As one friend put it...I am the healthiest terminally ill person she has ever met. You stated, “I am, as I have often stated, always conflicted by the tradeoffs between patient empowerment and professional expertise.” I finally asked the young intern (working with the doctor who refused to send me to someone for the infection) why doctors are spending so much money in TV advertising, counseling the patient to get involved and be active in their treatment...when so many doctors get annoyed when you do the research and make decisions based on the information you found? His answer surprised me. He stated that the doctors assumed you would make the same decision they offered you....that your research would be limited to the medical information supporting their opinion. I had only just mentioned this Black Salve treatment to my doctor the day before I wrote to you. I am sure she will buy the book and will probably have questions for you personally. Thanks to my friend, I’m off to order your book now. Blessings, Debra L Tenney | ||
| Ingrid |
Debra, The system of medical coverage in this country is unenlightened and inhumane. To have coverage connected to one's job is about as insane as it gets. It would, on the one hand, imply that your employer is responsible for whether or not you smoke or eat junk food, not just for occupational hazards. To have coverage terminated when changing jobs is cruel beyond imagination. To rank diseases and refuse to cover the conditions below the budgeted level is also unfair. Likewise, to cover only those treatments that are standard robs people of their right to choose and scientists of the adventure of discovery. In short, as almost everyone sooner or later finds out, the system is completely obsolete and lacking humanitarian precepts. Knowing this, I try to keep things affordable, but the other side is that I have never once felt that I had enough information to render the types of judgments necessary. As you point out, unless the practitioner can take the time to read your records, the tendency will be to make snap decisions based on one or two outstanding conditions. Moreover, in this curious world in which we live, the post-Semmelweiss era, it is once more common for doctors to act as though vaccines and antibiotics have solved the problem of infections whereas, in fact, this is far from true and hospitals are a prime place for contracting new infections. However, somewhere in the psyche of most doctors, there is a program operating suggesting that cancer is more dangerous than infection so lop off the breast today and worry about the infection later. In the program starting on the 17th, every patient will have a full medical assessment and an advocate who monitors progress and aid with troubleshooting the points that have not been addressed. This is something I have insisted is necessary in every single clinic, but you almost never find it. I wish you success. | ||
| Vicki |
Ingrid, In the message to Debra on Nov. 8, 2003 you make a reference to the program starting on the 17th in clinics. What is that relating to? I am investigating the use of salves for a breast tumor. I have ordered your book. Thank you for all the info on your site. Vicki | ||
| Debra |
Ingrid I received the book and have started reading it. Lovely! I especially like the way you have included definitions for medical terms. Debra | ||
| JosephineDarling |
Dear Ingrid I live in England, and from what I have read on this website, it is important to purchase your book, so I am in the process of doing that. I have been diagnosed with breast cancer, and although I have been on a drug to reduce the tumour for the last 3 months, my surgeon is not satisfied with the tiny reduction, and now wants to perform surgery. I am desparate to avoid this, but time is of the essence now. What I would like to ask about the salves (having seen the pictures on the website), is first, how do I find a good knowledgeable practitioner in the UK who I could go to and trust to monitor the application of the salves. Second, how long does the whole process take - for the tumour to finally discharge from the breast? Thank you for your attention. Love Josephine | ||
| Ingrid |
Vicki, I seem to be missing some posts here. You may or may not still be checking for a response. I have been consulting in Europe, working with different doctors to help them become comfortable with some of the approaches to healing that I understand. The next program will probably also be in the German-speaking world . . . and no, I don't really speak German. | ||
| Ingrid |
Josephine, I don't know anyone in England who is assisting this process. I wish I did because there are a lot of requests from GB about the herbal treatments. It's not possible to predict how long the process will take. If the tumor is small and near the surface of the breast, the whole process could take as little as 16 days, but there are many women who had what looked like simple conditions but whose treatment lingered on for eight months. It's still a reasonable option to consider IF you are keen to preserve your breasts. It is also possible to combine surgery and escharotic use, but then, you and your surgeon might want to discuss this strategy. I am always willing to work with practitioners who have open minds and want to try strategies they did not learn in medical school. | ||
| Keri |
Dear Ingrid, I have just ordered your book, and I have read Dr. Schultz's drawing poultice receipe and instructions. I have a very large tumor grown around the scar tissue of a previous lumpectomy site (tumor has surfaced at this location) and has also grown underneath the nipple. I am worried, and reluctant to try this process without professional monitoring, but I have been unable to find any alternative practisioner in Minneapolis who has experience with poultices, or is willing to work with me. Everyone is afraid of getting sued, or landing in jail. I want to save my breast! I am all alone on this. Any suggestions? Thank you, Keri - from the State of the Mayo Clinic Superpower. | ||
| Keri |
I just realized I posted this in the wrong place. I have re-posted this under "new questions". Keri | ||
| Elly |
Ingrid where can I find your book.. |
